dont be scared to use a buffer, you wont buff through!!!

The da ones oscillate so they don't create the friction nor temps the rotary can, side effect is a less powerful cut meaning it takes longer to remove scratches.

 

The fact that Tony said..

Made me think that he had not had it tested, but guessed it...

 

Meguiars have a new microfibre pad system for the d/a . I haven't tried it yet but it is supposed to correct almost as quick as a rotary but without the same risk of striking through .
Surely this would be a safer option for inexperienced users ?

 

if it corrects the same as a rotary it has to cut the same, so the pads must have more cut, meguirs are owned by 3m too ....

 

Someone else tested it though :shock:
http://www.type-ra.co.uk/vB/showthread.php?t=9818

80-100 microns, down to 70 microns in places (brand new spec c)

Tony

 

I have tested the new system and it is very Good, I would recommend the DA over the rotary for inexperienced Users, that's why Meguiar's retail one.

Michael

 

Michael, how much do the Meguiars DA ones cost from you? 8)

 

I can do the machine for £150 this is the G220 V2 Let me know because i am putting an order in tomorrow anyway.

Michael

 

see thats my bugbear with the da systems there 3times the price of a rotary,

 

Put me down for one Michael 8)

Tks

 

i would say tony with the readigs on your car be very carful if your going on with a harsh compund,

what colour is your car? im wondering if its a solid they have actually done it in a 2k solid apossed to a clear over base

 

Make your mind up you said get your buffers out you Won't go through. :roll:

Michael

 

You got a sale out of it so what you worried about, I'm simply asking the question of how a paint company can get away with litterally putting no paint on a car. And in his situation should be carful. Still think 80 microns sounds a little too low...although I still standby the fact he could do it with a machine costing a fraction of the price.

 

My point has always been you Can't machine polish with a rotary machine polisher if you Don't know what thickness of paint you have in the first Place, hence why i use a paint thickness gauge and not Zen as you do.

A DA is a safe machine to use as you have agreed.

If Tony does buy a Dual Action (da) machine polisher I'll measure his paint as i will anybody that asks me too, because I can't put back what's missing where as you Can, which leads back to my original point. :wink:

Why don't you encourage some Wet Sanding while You're at that will generate even more business?

Michael

 

I would only wet sand aftermarket paint ie full respray.

But it leads me back to the conundrum if you measured the paint on a standard car, how much clear is on there before you buff through or compromise the finish? Does ur depth gauge give u a reading of howmuch is in each layer? Ie primer, base and then clear. If it does then I holdy hands up. But if it just tells you that there are 100 microns total I'm afraid your doing exactly the same thing I am.

 

this is makin my head hurt :roll:

 

I know it's quite technical I'm going to do some more pics tomorrow as I'm borrowing a depth gauge.

 

Not that hard to do Mark :lol:

 

Only Because he's changed his mind and You can't machine all paint's as he's suggested you do :wink:

Michael

 

so your paint gauge can tell the difference then lol.

you can machine all paints, thats a fact.. i can, i have and will contiune too.

as will micheal and all other people who tell you cant, and that the rotary is a super bad tool to use,

a rotary with a soft pad with a ultra fine polish will cut the same as a da with a soft pad and ultra fine polish,

we use da sanders at work, and there used to prep paint, its just a case of a rougher grit, same principal tough.